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  • D20251015 Jew vs Christian debate
    • V05 - Gen 26
      • 001 Ge 26:24 And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake.
    • V10 - Gen 31
      • 001 Ge 31:11 And the angel of God spoke unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I.
      • 002 Ge 31:12 And he said, Lift up now thine eyes, and see, all the rams which leap upon the cattle are ringstreaked, speckled, and grizzled: for I have seen all that Laban doeth unto thee.
      • 003 Ge 31:13 I am the God of Bethel, where, thou anointedst the pillar, and where, thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred.
      • 004 V05 - Comment
        • The Angel is the Elohim of Bethel, the one Jacob saw.

           

          Bethel = house of God. I am the God of the house of God.

    • V15 - Gen 35
      • 001 Ge 35:1 And God said unto Jacob, Arise, go up to Bethel, and dwell there: and make there an altar unto God, that appeared unto thee when thou fleddest from the face, of Esau thy brother.
      • 002 Ge 35:7 And he built there an altar, and called the place El - bethel: because there God appeared unto him, when he fled from the face, of his brother.
      • 003 V05 - Comment
        • Elohim said, build an altar to the Elohim that appeared to you.

           

          El is the singular of Elohim, so the One appeared to Him was one of the Elohim, that El is the same as God.

          The verb appeared is plural. when they revealed Himself to Jacob.

    • V20 - Gen 48
      • 001 Ge 48:15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long, unto this day,
      • 002 Ge 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all, evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
      • 003 V05 - Comment
        • Elohim = God fed Jacob, th Angel redeemed him, Jacob, bless (singular) the lads. Elohim and the Angel is one God.
    • V25 - Ex 19
      • 001 Ex 14:19 And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind, them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind, them:
      • 002 Ex 14:20 And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near, the other all the night.
    • V30 - Ex 23
      • 001 Ex 23:20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
      • 002 Ex 23:21 Beware of, him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
      • 003 V05 - Comment
        • Very important - whatever is derived from scripture must be proved from scripture, not by a belief system, i.e. exegesis instead of isegesis.

           

          Also important, the Angel demands obedience - why would He not in the New Testament? - and He can forgive sin or not. What the Pharisees said, only YHWH could forgive sin.

    • V35 - Ex 24
      • 001 Ex 24:9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders, of Israel:
      • 002 Ex 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
      • 003 Ex 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
    • V40 - Ex 33
      • 001 Ex 33:2 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite:
      • 002 Ex 33:14 And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.
      • 003 Ex 33:15 And he said unto him, If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up, hence.,
      • 004 V05 - Comment
        • Presence is Angel of His presence = YESHUA before His incarnation
    • V45 - Num 20
      • 001 Nu 20:16 And when we cried unto the LORD, he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth out of Egypt:, and, behold, we are in Kadesh, a city in the uttermost of thy border:
    • V50 - Ps 82
      • 001 Ps 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
    • V55 - Isa 6
      • 001 Isa 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
      • 002 Isa 6:2 Above, it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings, with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
      • 003 Isa 6:3 And one cried unto, another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
      • 004 Isa 6:4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice, of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
      • 005 Isa 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
      • 006 V05 - Comment
        • Ruwn/Nasa
    • V60 - Isa 33
      • 001 Isa 33:10 Now will I rise, saith the LORD; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.
    • V65 - Isa 43
      • 001 Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside, me there is no savior.
      • 002 V05 - Comment
        • One Saviour
    • V70 - Isa 52
      • 001 Isa 52:13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.,
      • 002 V05 - Comment
        • Ruwn/Nasa

           

          Only used of YHWH. So the Servant should be equal to YHWH.

    • V75 - Isa 54
      • 001 Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
      • 002 V05 - Comments
        • You Makers are your husbands YHWH is His name.
    • V80 - Isa 57
      • 001 Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
    • V85 - Isa 63
      • 001 Isa 63:7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
      • 002 Isa 63:8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Savior.
      • 003 Isa 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bore them, and carried them all the days of old.
      • 004 Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his Holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
      • 005 Isa 63:14 As a beast goeth down into the valley, the Spirit of the LORD caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people, to make thyself a glorious name.
      • 006 V05 - Comment
        • Presence = face.

           

          YHWH, Angel of His face, Holy Spirit = 3 equ 3 in 1

          The Spirit guided them.

    • V90 - Zec 3
      • 001 Zec 3:3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
      • 002 Zec 3:4 And he answered and spoke unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from, him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from, thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.
      • 003 V05 - Comment
        • As in the New Covenant, YESHUA forgives sin.