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  • 007 D20240717 - The DO words in Joh 6
    • Note
      • The words in John 6 has been a mysterious secret to me for a long, long time - it is highly cryptic, mysterious and very wary and circumspect of releasing its meaning. It is truly one of those potions of scripture that bewilder. confound and perplex one when reading it.

        Yet it has profound meaning for Christians - and it is a vital key to unlock the mysteries of the New Covenant.

        There are many, many ideas and notions in Christianity that the enemy uses to divert believers from the true power of the gospel, in their own lives and in the society. A reborn, washed, Spirit filled obedient Christian (especially an ecclesia of them) is a deadly enemy to the forces of darkness - they are a shining light that overpowers darkness against which it has no defence.

        The only chance darkness has is to attack the light at its power source - and they have a astounding amount of dark schemes to take a Christian's focus off their Saviour and King, their dependance on Him for salvation and empowerment.

        One of these schemes is the controversy of the Law of Moses. In all fairness, the Bible seems to be somewhat ambiguous and unclear on the subject - herding the learned into opposing camps with each solid arguments - but leaving the ordinary Christian bewildered about the truth - does one have to dig into the Old Covenant and keep the commandments that need to be kept unto eternity - or was the Old already decaying and ready to disappear in the Hebrew writer's time. Paul is even more radical - stating people who want to continue would do better to castrate themselves! Then there is James! And John, and Peter.

        This is a complex subject that needs a M or P dessertation (or thousands), And here am I trying to pierce into the problem with a few scriptures.

        Do we have to throw away the law or keep it? The answer is - BOTH. But not in the way that it is normally described.

        Bucle up. Here we go.

        PS Kindly read the whole chapter and get well aquainted with the context - it is very important to discover  the contrast between the Old Covenant and provision (for physical vs spiritual existence) of YHWH and the New.

    • V05 - Work and exert for the soul food which endures for eternity
      • 001 Joh 6:27 Labor not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
      • 002 Comment
        • I thought we cannot "deserve" or "obtain" eternal life by works! And here YESHUA states we have to work for the food that will give us eternal life.

          Here is a clue that needs to be grasped.

          A viscious and highly dangerous false teaching has slowly crept in and overtaken Christianity - it is like a cancer that sucks out all true life from the community - it was birthed and brought forth from the minds of men that has an indescribable hatred for our Saviour and the academics gobbled it up, and infected uncount millions of believers - dispensasionalism.

          It cleft the person and work of Christ in two, retaining ONLY the sacrifice on the cross - leaving this passage (and practically ALL of the gospels) in the Old Covenant - not to be paid attention by Christians.

    • V10 - Be convicted of and trust in the Messenger of YHWH
      • 001 Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
      • 002 Comment
        • It is true that YESHUA came under the Old Covenant and fulfilled that covenant to the T. And necessarily there are elements of the Old Covenant that He performed and that He spoke about it. We need to be cognisant to that.

          BUT, His and John the Baptists' ministries represented a transition into the New Covenant. YESHUA's instructions, however, needs to be taken very seriously applicable to our Christian lives.

          In order to better understand Him, one should have a very firm grasp on the Old Covenant and the Prophets, but of vital importance is Genesis especially 1-3, 6 and 10,11, 12 and parts of Deuteronomy that speaks of the election of Israel vs the nations. Isaiah and his prophesies of YESHUA is also kernel to this knowledge.

          The above is the context that YESHUA speaks when He says He was sent. This mission was planned and in execution even before creation. Our conviction of who YESHUA was, and what His mission was (and still is) should encompass ALL this contextual information in order to grasp the rest of the passage.

    • V15 - Ask for the bread that is everlasting - be aware it may not be what one expect nor what pleases the palate (taste)
      • 001 Joh 6:34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
      • 002 Comment
        • Typical of man - provide me with the physical substances necessary for life and I will be a happy chappy. Ignoring the fact that the Israelite mob, in the desert, was an unruly, disobedient, riotous, unthankfull bunch that was more than once on the verge of being obliterated by YHWH's anger - even though they had ALL the provision - massive trains with loads of water and food - shelter and light, and the presence and protection of YHWH and His Angel.

          Alas, a serious reflection on the reasons we why people turn to YESHUA - to for fickle needs and some fear that we may end up in fire one day.

          How sad.

          Sigh.

    • V20 - Appear before YESHUA - He provides food never to hunger and drink never to thirst
      • 001 Joh 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never, thirst.
      • 002 Comment
        • Was it more difficult for the proud Jews to submit to a poor, possibly born of fornication teacher, having a bunch of untrained, uncivilzed, unruly disciples - than for us?

          How many times do we bow truly before the King of kings - who gave His life for us, being ripped apart by wild ravenous beasts, mocked, denied justice before His own people and the hated gentiles, being exposed on one of the most cruel inhuman torture and killing instruments conceived in the depths of darkness. In the darkest and most lonely extreme even abandoned by His Father, whom He loved and obeyed far beyond human ability?

          Now, looking like a Lamb slain, still carrying the scars, yet having a name beyond all under, on, and above earth, able to destroy 200 000 000 hybrid humans in a moment - and to judge - us.

    • V25 - Becomming a follower of Christ and appearing before Him wil never be driven out and be banished
      • 001 Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
      • 002 Comment
        • The blind man came to mind... He threw off all his possesions and his "house" - to come to YESHUA.

          When called into His kingdom - it is an unbelievable and unspeakable privilege and honour.

          We need to treat it as such.

    • V30 - Carefully observing YESHUA the Son having conviction and trust in Him have everlasting life and will be resurrected
      • 001 Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up, at the last day.
      • 002 Comment
        • Seeing is not only looking at a beautiful blue-eyed long blond hair heartbreaker Westerner - YESHUA was a Middle Eastern man with a darkish skin and had no beauty...

          But His meaning is that we would attentively, not indifferently, endeavouring to discover and learn who He is, and what He stands for, and what reaction to this knowlege is appropriate for us.

    • V35 - Instructed of YHWH, hearing and learning by practice by YHWH that person and that person only appears before YESHUA
      • 001 Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
      • 002 Comment
        • Consider the teaching of YESHUA - He insists and demands that only those that are willing to answer the call of YHWH, willing to throw off all disallowed behaviours and believes and inclinations and submit to the rules of His kingdom and reign - ONLY those will come to YESHUA and drink from the fountain that proceeds from Him, and eat of the food that He provides. Are the food and drink any different now that He is in heaven exalted above every other creature equal to the Father Himself than what it was when He was on earth?

          NO!

          For those that believe in Dispensasionalism, and say I am unkind, only study where this unholy teaching had its origins - men of corrupt minds - and what it accomplishes. It litterally cuts out and castrates the words of YESHUA, religating them to the Old Covenant - the VERY words by which He is going to judge - US!

          Continue to cling to this teaching may just place one in a very precarious and dangerous position.

    • V40 - Being convinced and being convicted of who YESHUA is - that person has eternal life
      • 001 Joh 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
      • 002 Comment
        • What would be the focus and content of what we are to be convinced and convicted of? What is it that would provide the impetus and motivation rather to be ripped apart or burnt or having our heads severed than to give up what we believe?

          It needs to be well and deeply being investigated. We need to be sure. That will be the ONLY way that we can be directed past the pit of fire towards an endless existence with YESHUA.

          That injunction (decision) - to bypass the pit of fire - depends on our treatment of YESHUA our knowledge of and reaction to that knowledge of Him.

    • V45 - Consuming YESHUA, being guided and taught he will not experience the second death
      • 001 Joh 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
      • 002 Comment
        • The Jews had physical provision - and many were destroyed nonetheless.

          YESHUA provides spiritual food. We would be well advised to take up the gospels and study it carefully. Also Revelation. The gospels describe the Lamb and the sacrifice, Revelation the consumation of YESHUA's work.

    • V50 - Consuming the truth, basing life on it, and continuing in it, that YESHUA's body and blood was the perfect sacrifice - that person shall live unto unbroken eternity
      • 001 Joh 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever:, and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
      • 002 Comment
        • That body was prepared and sacrificed in the most inhuman and cruel manner. It was the epitome of expression of man's hatred of YHWH - empowered and infused by the forces of darkness and their contempt, loathing, hatred and fear of YHWH.

          Yet in this disgusting and gut-wrenching act of utter malevolence, there must have been a rambunctious party in the dark realm when He hung there - until the shattering and fearsome words brought all to sudden silence and horror - telestia - done, payed, accomplished.

          The darkness had its strategy turned on its head - and it became the most powerful weapon against them - AND IT IS IN OUR HANDS AND MINDS AND HEARTS!

          His sacrifice tore open the veil between YHWH and us and allow us free access into YHWH's presence. An exciting, humbling and fearsome truth.

    • V55 - Having the body and blood of YESHUA as basis of life is essential to experience the new birthed life - overcomming the monster of own flesh god and being subservient to YHWH - is having the sacrifice of YESHUA as vital element
      • 001 Joh 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
      • 002 Comment
        • The blood of bulls and goats did clean the flesh - the stains of sin. But not effectively and permanently. When the high priest exited the most holy on the day of atomement, the sin load and tension started to build immediately - until it could be negated a year later.

          We now have the blood of YESHUA as PROOF that He paid with His life - He took it into the most holy in heaven and paid for sins ONCE FOR ALL. Proof that He overcame death and prince of darkness. And that we can have victory over our flesh and its uncontrollable and overpowering influences.

          Pentacostals have twisted this meaning by "pleading the blood" over each and every thing. Yes, blood WAS sprinkled on each and every thing, devoting it to YHWH reserving it for His domain. It was also proof of a being punished (by death) for the sins of the people. So the blood of YESHUA should be applied ONLY way.

          Pleading the blood is a tantamount to using the blood as a talisman protecting against any and all evil and misfortune.

          Stay with what the Bible teaches.

          Please.

    • V60 - Being resurrected is being totally consumed by the need to depend on YESHUA His life and His sacrifice
      • 001 Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up, at the last day.
    • V65 - Being unconditionally and unquestionably and fully dependent on YESHUA's being (who He was/is/will be) the only way to realize fully the New Covenant
      • 001 Joh 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
    • V70 - The absolute essential part of having and experiencing the new life in YESHUA and having the Spirit to kill sin empowered bear fruit - that is to live on and consume who YESHUA (was/is/will be)
      • 001 Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
    • V75 - Manna of Moses was to keep them physically alive for the next day, the Manna from heaven (YESHUA) empowers man to life forever
      • 001 Joh 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live forever.,
    • V80 - Deep and fareaching - the law focussed on the flesh which is animous to YHWH and is powerless against the tyranical god - the Spirit suppresses and overcomes - YESHUA's words are Spiritual
      • 001 Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
      • 002 Comment
        • The controversy between those that the law will never disappear (until heaven and earth depart) and those that the law has been nullified (ready to disappear, a wife whose husband died can marry again) had me confused.

          Both presents very solid arguments. Both appear to be valid at the SAME time. But that is impossible. Each one cannot be true - YESHUA fulfilled the religious rituals, going back to them would be blasphemy to the extreme.

          However, being lawless is just as horrendous and unthinkable. Being free from sin and Satan and death and fire - yet having no guide nor guiderails is just as illogical and preposterous.

          Rom 7 gives the conflict of a man caught in this controversy. Ro 8 gives the answer.

          YESHUA is the mediator of the New Testament - where dictates that YHWH's laws are written in our hearts and minds.


          The gist of these commands are all over the Old and New Covenant scriptures, especially contained in YESHUA's sayings and underlined by John's letters - our respect and love and submission to YHWH, our citizenship in His kingly realm (yes ALSO for now) and our relation to our neighbours (especially those of the spiritual family),

          A believer living in the realms of Ro 8 fulfill the law (moral) of YHWH - which will continue into eternity - and have nothing to do with the rituals of the Old Covenant (specifically for the JEWS until YESHUA came)

    • V85 - Additional reading
      • V05 - Fallen man - under formidable and unconquerable curse
        • 001 Ge 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
        • 002 Ro 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject, to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
        • 003 V05 - Comment
          • Uncountable words were written about this... There can only be ONE Elohim. elohim that tried to be Elohim was the cause of the heavenly war and casting out of a third of the heavenly beings.

            But they managed to infect and corrupt man with the same malady and plague... And this contagion is carried from generation to generation. Man is finally and ultimately unable to, out of himself, extract himself from this curse.

            The Bible contains innumerable subjects, but one of the most salient and enduring is how YHWH planned and executed a means to extract, wash and translate man from out of the mess that he is born into into a new life, a new hope of a new future.

      • V10 - Fallen yet saved man's war
        • 001 Ro 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
        • 002 Ro 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
        • 003 Ro 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
        • 004 Ro 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
        • 005 Ro 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
        • 006 Ro 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid., But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding, sinful.
        • 007 Ro 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
        • 008 Ro 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
        • 009 Ro 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
        • 010 Ro 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
        • 011 Ro 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
        • 012 Ro 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity, to the law of sin which is in my members.
        • 013 Ro 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
        • 014 V05 - Comment
          • Once man hears and understands and appreciates the majesty and excellence of YHWH's laws, he wants to follow them.

            He even believes the gospel, accepted YESHUA as King and Saviour... Have even the gifts of the Spirit.

            But there is an unremovable elastic attached to his ankle. The more he struggles, the more the tension, he loses grip, and again, and again, and again he finds himself in the same tacky stinking and sticky mud.

            How is this translation made. How can this elastic be cut so that he can continue on the way of holiness?

            Binding devils? No. The Bible provides the answer.

            YESHUA.

      • V15 - YHWH's covenant - man's ONLY hope
        • V05 - New covenant
          • 001 Ro 11:27 For this is my covenant {1242} unto them when I shall take away their sins
        • V10 - The terms of the covenant promised by God
          • 001 Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant {1242} that I will make with the house of Israel after those days saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind and write them in their hearts and I will be to them a God and they shall be to me a people
          • 002 Heb 10:16 This is the covenant {1242} that I will make with them after those days saith the Lord I will put my laws into their hearts and in their minds will I write them;
        • V15 - YESHUA the mediator of the new covenant
          • 001 Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant {1242} and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better things than that of Abel
        • V20 - Blood was an absolute essential part of any covenant
          • 001 Heb 9:20 Saying This is the blood of the testament {1242} which God hath enjoined unto you
      • V20 - Central message of the Old Covenant that MUST BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD AND APPRECIATED
        • 001 Heb 9:13 For if the blood {129} of bulls and of goats and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling the unclean sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh
        • 002 Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; {129} and without shedding of blood is no remission
        • 003 Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood {129} of bulls and of goats should take away sins
      • V25 - Released from bondage of sin and the guilt of it
        • 001 Mt 26:28 For this is my blood {129} of the new testament which is shed for many for the remission of sins
        • 002 Mr 14:24 And he said unto them This is my blood {129} of the new testament which is shed for many
        • 003 Lu 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper saying This cup is the new testament in my blood {129} which is shed for you
      • V30 - Bought and set free
        • V05 - Elohim God purchased us with his blood
          • 001 Ac 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers to feed the ekklesia of God which he hath purchased with his own blood {129}
        • V10 - YESHUA's blood liberates us from YHWH's wrath paying the ransom to have our falling and missing written off
          • 001 Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood {129} the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of his grace;
          • 002 Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood {129} even the forgiveness of sins
        • V15 - YESHUA obtained everlasting freedom from sin by going into the holiest by his own blood
          • 001 Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood {129} of goats and calves but by his own blood {129} he entered in once into the holy place having obtained eternal redemption for us
        • V20 - YESHUA's blood which was of great value paid as ransom to free us
          • 001 1Pe 1:17 And if ye call on the Father who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man s work pass the time of your sojourning here in fear
          • 002 1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things as silver and gold from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
          • 003 1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood {129} of Christ as of a lamb without blemish and without spot
        • V25 - YESHUA bought us from wrath by his blood
          • 001 Re 5:9 And they sung a new song saying Thou art worthy to take the book and to open the seals thereof for thou wast slain and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood {129} out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation;
      • V35 - YESHUA's blood appease YHWH towards us, I. E. it calms the wrath of YHWH as it was expended on YESHUA
        • 001 Ro 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood {129} to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past through the forbearance of God;
      • V40 - YHWH declares us righteous, show us as not guilty based solely on the blood and our reaction and relation to him
        • 001 Ro 5:9 Much more then being now justified by his blood {129} we shall be saved from wrath through him
      • V45 - Providing freedom to enter into the holiest by the blood of YESHUA
        • 001 Heb 10:19 Having therefore brethren boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood {129} of Jesus
      • V50 - Essence of walking the high road
        • 001 Ro 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
        • 002 Ro 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free, from the law of sin and death.
        • 003 Ro 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
        • 004 Ro 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
        • 005 Ro 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
        • 006 Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
        • 007 Ro 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
        • 008 Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
        • 009 Ro 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
        • 010 Ro 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
        • 011 V05 - Comment
          • This is by NO means a complete treatise of a very mysterious and complex subject - it only endeavours to take a narrowly focussed view on the way that man can regain rightness with YHWH.

            There are two thoughts on the law (of Moses), one that it is alive and well as it was in his day (except of course the rituals, replaced by YESHUA), and the other that it is dead and done for Christians.  Then there is a middle way in that only the moral part of the law is still in effect.

            But what is "moral" in the law? How do we define it to find it? How do we keep it? These are more difficult and muddy that what one at first realise.

            For me personally, Romans 8 gave a solid (still yet mysterious and difficult) answer - walking by the Spirit.